peck rigid tap

[fourperf]

Hi Guys, I didnt want to hijack the other thread so I thiught I would start a new one.

When you peck rigid tap does that have to be reflected in your post or is it something only at the machine.

Thanks

Mark

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[cam1]

Hi:

check this out

http://www.haascnc.com/cncmag/answer...&ArticleID=562

[fourperf]

thanks for that but how would the block read differently that a normal g84 rigid tap cycle. Is it in fact a G84?

thanks

mark

[DSL PWR]

Just use multiple G84's to deeper depths.

[Geof]

thanks for that but how would the block read differently that a normal g84 rigid tap cycle. Is it in fact a G84?

thanks

mark

It is just G84, you have to have the REPT RIGID TAP Parameter set and you can be lazy; write one G84 line then just a string of increasing Z depths.

[Donkey Hotey]

It is just G84, you have to have the REPT RIGID TAP Parameter set and you can be lazy; write one G84 line then just a string of increasing Z depths.

Dang, you're right! It's modal. I saw the other method and filed it away in my brain but you're right: it's even easier than multiple G84s. Thanks Geof!

[Geof]

Dang, you're right! It's modal. I saw the other method and filed it away in my brain but you're right: it's even easier than multiple G84s. Thanks Geof!

You can do the same with G82 and G83 (and a lot of other canned cycles I guess) if you have a lot of holes withe different depths; just put a Z along with the X, Y coordinate.

But with the Haas editor it is so easy to select the entire G84 line, copy it multiple times, and then just step down changes the Zs.

But don't copy it too many times or you will get the corrupted program error I described in a different thread.

[pit202]

will be fine if there cut be an Q parameter like in drilling

[Donkey Hotey]

Yes, I agree: it should not be any harder than doing a peck-drilling cycle. I really do wonder why they haven't done it. They have customized enough other codes to be proprietary to Haas controls. This wouldn't be any different.

[Geof]

will be fine if there cut be an Q parameter like in drilling

Give them time, give them time.

[fourperf]

Hey Geof, would you mind posting how the code would look to peck tap 1 hole (say 3 pecks) for a numbskull like myself. Thanks a lot geof

mark

[Geof]

Hey Geof, would you mind posting how the code would look to peck tap 1 hole (say 3 pecks) for a numbskull like myself. Thanks a lot geof

mark

When I mention above how easy it is to copy lines with the Haas editor I mean you can write one line then just copy it and change the Z values.

G84 Z-.3 F50. R.1
G84 Z-.55 F50. R.1
G84 Z-.75 F50. R.1
G80

Or just write one line and follow it with the different Zs

G84 Z-.3 F50. R.1
Z-.55
Z-.75
G80

One thing that is a bit of a pain when you want to peck tap is doing an array of holes.

For spotting (G82) and drilling (G83) you can activate the canned cycle then go to a subroutine with all the hole coordinates, the same subroutine for both canned cycles.

You could also activate the G84 at the first Z depth and go to the subroutine.
Then the next Z depth and go to the subroutine.
Then the final Z depth and go to the subroutine.

And waste a lot of time with the machine running back and forth.

For production programs what I do is have two subroutines. The first has all hole coordinates with a second subroutine call to a tapping subroutine:

X1. Y1. M97 P3000
X2. M97 P3000
X3. M97 P3000
etc

-------
P3000 G84 Z-.3 F50. R.1
Z-.55
Z-.75
G80
M99

It is a little tedious to write when you are dealing with a lot of holes but it is worth it because the program runs faster.

This is where the Q value would be very, very handy....Nudge, Nudge to you guys at Haas.

[fourperf]

thanks a lot geof

Mark

[fourperf]

alright, I went to give it a go only to find out that its not a setting you have to enable its a parameter. Why????


mark

why would it not be activated all the time from haas?

[Geof]

alright, I went to give it a go only to find out that its not a setting you have to enable its a parameter. Why????


mark

why would it not be activated all the time from haas?

Yes there is a Parameter, the link to the Haas website that cam1 gave described it. I think it depends on what year the machine is because Rigid tapping has to be enabled, it is an option, as well as the repeat rigid tap; on some machines one is a Setting the other is a Parameter and on some machines they are both Parameters I think.

One does wonder why they are not activated all the time/

[fourperf]

I have rigid trapping. repeat rigid tapping is another option?

mark

[Geof]

I have rigid trapping. repeat rigid tapping is another option?

mark

No, you have to have Rigid Tapping to use Repeat Rigid Tapping. If you get the Rigid Tapping option then you can activate Repeat Rigid Tapping.


Which, of course, explains why it is not activated all the time...it will not work without Rigid Tapping.

[fourperf]

Am I able to enable that parameter or do I have to have someone do it or If I have rigid tapping is parameter automatically enabled?

Thanks Geof

mark

[Geof]

Am I able to enable that parameter or do I have to have someone do it or If I have rigid tapping is parameter automatically enabled?

Thanks Geof

mark

You should be able to do it.

Go to Setting 7 which is Parameter Lock and turn it off, that is push right arrow then Write.

Then hit Estop.

Go to Parameter 57 and find the REPT RIGID TAP bit; it will be 0 if it is not active.

Type 1 and Write and now you should have a 1 there.

That is it. Just turn Setting 7 back on and release E stop.

[fourperf]

Thanks Geof, I will give it a go

Mark